{"id":647,"date":"2009-08-06T07:21:08","date_gmt":"2009-08-06T11:21:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dr-chuck.com\/wordpress\/?p=647"},"modified":"2011-12-17T12:30:56","modified_gmt":"2011-12-17T16:30:56","slug":"simple-sequencing-learning-design-discussion-in-ims-developer-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dr-chuck.com\/csev-blog\/2009\/08\/simple-sequencing-learning-design-discussion-in-ims-developer-forum\/","title":{"rendered":"Simple Sequencing \/ Learning Design Discussion in IMS Developer Forum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There is a great discussion about SCORM, IMS Learning Design, and Simple Sequencing going on between Mark Norton, Colin Smythe, Crispin Weston, and others  talking about orchestrating dynamic content within a course.   I think that dynamic pathing in content is a critical need where interoperability would be really great.  [In my humble opinion: the current specs in the area (SCORM, IMS LD, IMS Simple Sequencing, etc) are all flawed and not responsive to the needs of teachers and learners.]<br \/>\nIf you are interested in this topic you are welcome to watch or join in:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.imsglobal.org\/community\/forum\/index.cfm?forumid=11\">http:\/\/www.imsglobal.org\/community\/forum\/index.cfm?forumid=11<\/a>.<br \/>\nHere is my most recent post (a reply to Crispin Weston):<br \/>\nCrispin,  with my Sakai\/LMS architect hat on, I am very attracted to a declarative approach with pre and post conditions.  I like this approach because I think that it is easier to implement and easier to get started to add &#8220;dynamic aspects&#8221; to an LMS that otherwise has no dynamic features at all (i.e. a very resource-oriented style LMS like Sakai).<br \/>\nWhile I am not an expert in Angel &#8211; I have played with it a bit and like it a lot &#8211; it seems to take a view that is a hierarchy of learning objects with pre and post conditions &#8211; and while I have not used pre\/post conditions &#8211; the Angel UI appeals to me.<br \/>\nWith my faculty member hat on &#8211; I like simple declarative pre and post conditions because I have the feeling that I can start out, author my class with no &#8220;design&#8221; as a hierarchy of learning objects &#8211; then after the initial pass through the material in a semester where stuff is slowly built up\/revealed to the students over time (which is a nice pedagogy as it attracts attention to the stuff that is relevant now) &#8211; and then in the next semester I am teaching the same course &#8211; I already have the material &#8211; but I don&#8217;t want to dump it all on the students in day one &#8211; and some of it I want to hide until I clean it up a bit.   All of a sudden my greatest need *as a faculty member* is some simple workflow to add to an existing structure.   This way, we give faculty the tools to do simple dynamic pathing in their content.<br \/>\nI understand that pre\/post is not &#8220;Sequencing with a capital S&#8221; &#8211; but my feeling is that &#8220;complex sequencing&#8221; (i.e. my course is a flow chart with 2000 boxes) is something that instructional designers love and faculty generally find uninteresting.  I as a faculty member do not see my course and my teaching as &#8220;procedural&#8221;.  I do not want to add a bunch of &#8220;GOTO&#8221; statements to my course.  I see my course as more of a flow of data with fliters turning on and off bits and pieces.  In short, my course is more like SQL than FORTRAN &#8211; and whenever I see complex sequencing &#8211; it makes me think of FORTRAN and computed GOTOs.<br \/>\nWith my IMS hat on (third hat now) &#8211; I think that a simple spec that captures a language and namespace for pre and post conditions and associates them with pieces of the organization is a real winner.   If QTIv1.2 has a good starting point &#8211; then that sounds cool to me &#8211; I would want to take a fresh look at it to make sure that it is truly *simple* and implementable.  I would also look at Angel&#8217;s feature set to see if we can take some inspiration from Angel&#8217;s triggers.<br \/>\nOverall, I think that we could define and find some low-hanging fruit and come up with something pretty quickly that could find its way into shipping products pretty quickly.   My current goal\/measure\/mantra is &#8220;what will make it into shipping products and into the hands of teachers and learners as quickly as possible&#8221;.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.imsglobal.org\/community\/forum\/index.cfm?forumid=11\">http:\/\/www.imsglobal.org\/community\/forum\/index.cfm?forumid=11<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a great discussion about SCORM, IMS Learning Design, and Simple Sequencing going on between Mark Norton, Colin Smythe, Crispin Weston, and others talking about orchestrating dynamic content within a course. I think that dynamic pathing in content is a critical need where interoperability would be really great. 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